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This file documents an FBI investigation into claims made by Wladyslaw Krasuski regarding a 1944 observation of a circular unidentified flying object in Germany that allegedly caused mechanical failure in a tractor. The investigation includes interview notes, background checks, and correspondence regarding the witness's claims of advanced technology. The file also contains subsequent inquiries from UFO research organizations regarding sightings in the Detroit area.
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form
This is an FBI FOIPA cover sheet for a file related to Michael R. Charest, dated May 31, 1985.
FD-245 (REV. 1-21-80) U. S. Department of Justice BUREAU of IGATION FBI - CENTRAL RECORDS CENTER DE - DETROIT Class / Case # 0100 26505 Sub Vol. 1 Serial # 1 OPEN COPIED FOR FOIPA SERIALS REQUESTERS FULL NAME COMPUTER NUMBER DATE BY See also Nos. All Charest, Michael R. 245,974 5-31-85 dee [HANDWRITTEN: Closed Section]
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memo
This page contains a brief note regarding an interview with Wladyslaw Krasuski, along with administrative stamps and handwritten notes indicating the document's classification status and filing information.
1. Notes re: interview with WLADYSLAW KRASUSKI (rec'd 11/7/57( [HANDWRITTEN: ALL INFORMATION CONTAINED on this envelope HEREIN IS UNCLASSIFIED DATE 5/22/85 BY SP-6 bja/hey] [HANDWRITTEN: 100-26505-14] SEARCHED INDEXED SERIALIZED FILED NOV 18 1957 FBI-DETROIT
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form
This is an FBI document cover sheet for notes regarding an interview with Wladyslaw Krasuski, dated November 7, 1957.
Date Received 11/7/57 From (Name of contributor) (Address of contributor) By [HANDWRITTEN: E.H. WENTZEL] (Name of Special Agent) To Be Returned Yes ( ) No (✓) Description: [HANDWRITTEN: Notes re interview w/ WLADYSLAW KRASUSKI 11/7/57] File No. [HANDWRITTEN: 100-26505-1a] ALL INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS ENVELOPE HEREIN IS UNCLASSIFIED DATE 5/22/95 BY SP6 JKF/ky
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diagram
A handwritten diagram containing various sketches, notes, and geographic references including 'Berlin' and 'Golssen', dated November 7, 1957.
[HANDWRITTEN: WA 27516 - 11/7/57 5457 jos Camp rot allick run in 44 gone in 45 50' high 100-150 yds 55 25-35 mi Berlin 44-45 2 mi Gut alt 55 Major Golssen ALL INFORMATION CONTAINED HEREIN IS UNCLASSIFIED DATE 5/22/85 BY SP6 byj/hey]
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other
This page contains a handwritten note regarding an interview with Wladyslaw Krasuski on November 7, 1957, associated with case file 100-26505.
[HANDWRITTEN: Interview w/ WLADYSLAW KRASUSKI 11/7/57 100-26505]
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other
A single page containing the handwritten name 'Franciszek Grabowski' on lined paper.
Franciszek Grabowski
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form
This is an FBI Record Request form (FD-125) for a criminal record check on Wladyslaw Krasuski, also known as Walter.
Record Request FD-125 (5-27-55) Birth [ ] Credit [ ] Criminal [X] Motor Vehicle [ ] Death [ ] Marriage* [ ] INS [ ] To: Return to: [HANDWRITTEN: Rathbun] File number 100-26505 Buded Name and aliases of subject, applicant or employee & spouse WLADYSLAW KRASUSKI aka WALTER Addresses Residence [HANDWRITTEN: 5457 Jos. Campau.] Business [HANDWRITTEN: Empe good Brewery] Former *Date and place of marriage (if pertinent) Race W Sex [X] Male [ ] Female Birth date [ ] Birthplace [REDACTED] FOIA(b)(6) Age Height Weight Hair Eyes Arrest Number Fingerprint Classification Criminal Specialty Specific information desired [HANDWRITTEN: any record] (See reverse side for results of check) NW 90290 DocId:34714592 Page 7
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memo
An urgent memo from the FBI Director to the Detroit SAC office requesting an immediate interview with W. Kiasuski, who wrote to Robert Cutler claiming to have information about a rocket in Texas.
URGENT 11-6-57 5-40 PM CS TO SAC, DETROIT FROM DIRECTOR 1P UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS, IS-X. MR. W. KIASUSKI, [HANDWRITTEN: Complainant] FIVE FOUR FIVE SEVEN JOS. CAMPAU, DETROIT ELEVEN MICHIGAN, ADDRESSED LETTER DATED NOVEMBER FOURTH TO ROBERT CUTLER, WHO IS SPECIAL ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT, STATING QUOTE I MIGHT HAVE SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE ROCKET IN TEXAS. I HEARD ABOUT IT ON THE POLISH RADIO PROGRAM. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW TO WHOM I COULD SPEAK TO. UNQUOTE. IMMEDIATELY INTERVIEW KIASUSKI FOR ANY INFORMATION HE MAY HAVE. BUFILES REFLECT NO INFORMATION RE KIASUSKI. SUTEL. END ACK PLS OK FBI DE JH [HANDWRITTEN: SAC advised 5:45 PM 11/6/57 Wm. J. Smith advised [ILLEGIBLE] 1. [ILLEGIBLE] - NY 2. set up appointment for a.m. - Not filed by directory no phone for them in X cross] [HANDWRITTEN: 11/7/57] [HANDWRITTEN: 100-26505-1] [HANDWRITTEN: SEARCHED INDEXED SERIALIZED FILED NOV 6 1957 FBI DETROIT] ALL INFORMATION CONTAINED HEREIN IS UNCLASSIFIED DATE 5/22/85 BY [HANDWRITTEN: S. G. Lyathey]
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memo
This document is an FBI interview report with Wladyslaw Krasuski regarding his 1944 observation of a phenomenon in Germany that caused a tractor engine to stall, which he reported after reading about similar events in Texas.
Detroit 31, Michigan November 7,1957 ALL INFORMATION CONTAINED HEREIN IS UNCLASSIFIED DATE 3/20/13 BY [HANDWRITTEN: [ILLEGIBLE]] UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS In response to a letter directed by him to Mr. Robert Cutler, Special Assistant to President Dwight D. Eisenhower,reflecting that he "might have some information about the rocket in Texas," Wladyslaw Krasuski, 5457 Joseph Campau, Detroit, was interviewed November 7, 1957, and furnished the following information: Born [REDACTED] in the State of [REDACTED]. Krasuski was brought from Poland as a Prisoner of War to Gut Alt Golssen,approximately 30 miles east of Berlin, Germany, in May, 1942, where he remained until a few weeks after the end of World War II. He spent the following years at Displaced Persons Camps at Kork, Strasburg, Offenburg, Milheim and Freiburg, Germany. He attended a radio technician school at Freiburg and for about a year was employed in a textile mill at Laurachbaden, Germany. He arrived in the United States at New York, May 2, 1951, via the "S.S. General Stewart" as a Displaced Person, destined to the Reverend Father Petro Walkowiak, Hamtramck, Michigan; his alien registration number - [REDACTED]. Since May, 1951, he has been employed at the Gobel Brewery, Detroit. News report of mysterious vehicle in Texas causing engines to stall prompted him to communicate with the United States Government concerning a similar phenomenon observed by him in 1944 in the area of Gut Alt Golssen. According to Krasuski, during 1944, month not recalled, while enroute to work in a field a short distance north of Gut Alt Golssen, their tractor engine stalled on a road through a swamp area. No machinery or other vehicle was then visible although a noise was heard described as a high-pitched whine similar to that produced by a large electric generator. 5 - Bureau (RM) 1 - Detroit (100-26505) CR:JLK [HANDWRITTEN: [ILLEGIBLE]] [HANDWRITTEN: 14-26505-2] Searched [HANDWRITTEN: [ILLEGIBLE]] Serialized [HANDWRITTEN: [ILLEGIBLE]] Indexed [HANDWRITTEN: [ILLEGIBLE]] Filed [HANDWRITTEN: [ILLEGIBLE]]
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report
This page describes a witness account of a circular vehicle rising from an enclosure in a swampy area, observed by a work crew, and the subsequent disappearance of the site's infrastructure after World War II.
An "SS" guard appeared and talked briefly with the German driver of the tractor, who waited five to ten minutes, after which the noise stopped and the tractor engine was started normally. Approximately 3 hours later in the same swamp area, but away from the road where the work crew was cutting "hay", he surreptitiously, because of the German in charge of the crew and "SS" guards in the otherwise deserted area, observed a circular enclosure approximately 100 to 150 yards in diameter protected from viewers by a tarpaulin-type wall approximately 50 feet high, from which a vehicle was observed to slowly rise vertically to a height sufficient to clear the wall and then to move slowly horizontally a short distance out of his view, which was obstructed by nearby trees. This vehicle, observed from approximately 500 feet, was described as circular in shape, 75 to 100 yards in diameter, and about 14 feet high, consisting of dark gray stationary top and bottom sections, five to six feet high. The approximate three foot middle section appeared to be a rapidly moving component producing a continuous blur similar to an aeroplane propeller, but extending the circumference of the vehicle so far as could be observed. The noise emanating from the vehicle was similar but of somewhat lower pitch than the noise previously heard. The engine of the tractor again stalled on this occasion and no effort was made by the German driver to start the engine until the noise stopped, after which the engine started normally. Uninsulated metal, possibly copper, cables one and one-half inch to two inches in diameter, on and under the surface of the ground, in some places covered by water, were observed on this and previous occasions, apparently running between the enclosure and a small concrete column-like structure between the road and enclosure. This area was not visited by Krasuski again until shortly after the end of World War II, when it was observed the cables had been removed and the previous locations of the concrete structure and the enclosure were covered by water. Krasuski stated he has not been in communication since 1945 with any of the work crew of 16 or 18 men, consisting of Russian, French and Polish POWs, who had discussed this incident among themselves many times. However, of these, Krasuski was able to recall by name only Franciszek Grabowski, no address known, described as then about 50 years of age and presumed by Krasuski to have returned to Poland after 1945. -2-
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other
This is a standard FBI disclaimer page indicating that the report is on loan and should not be distributed outside the receiving agency.
This report is loaned to you by the FBI, and neither it nor its contents are to be distributed outside your agency. -3-
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memo
This FBI airtel from the Detroit office reports on an interview with Wladyslaw (Walter) Krasuski regarding his communication to Robert Cutler, and confirms his background and employment status through credit records.
11/7/57 AIRTEL AMSD - RM TO: DIRECTOR, FBI FROM: SAC, DETROIT (100-26505) UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS; IS - X. Re Detroit Teletype to Bureau, 11/7/57, captioned "UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS; IS - X." Interview of WLADYSLAW KRASUSKI, aka. WALTER KRASUSKI, reported in Blank Memo, five copies of which are enclosed herewith for the Bureau, was conducted by SA CASSIUS RATHBUN. No indication of irrational or otherwise abnormal behavior by KRASUSKI was observed during the interview. KRASUSKI advised that his communication was directed to Mr. ROBERT CUTLER rather than to President EISENHOWER after seeing Mr. CUTLER's picture and identification with the President's Office in a local paper. KRASUSKI resides with his wife, nee JOANN WISNIEWSKI, married in 1952 at Detroit, and four small children, in a single residence in an old Polish neighborhood at 5457 Jos. Campau Avenue, Detroit. No previous record located in Detroit Indices identifiable with KRASUSKI or his wife. On 11/7/57, WILLIAM RECKNAGEL, Manager, advised IC PAUL DESMOND that records of the Mich. Merchants Credit Association, reflect only credit inquiries concerning WALTER KRASUSKI during 6/56 and 3/57 and 6/57, which confirm his local address and employment. 3 - Bureau (Encls.5)(RM) 1 - Detroit [HANDWRITTEN: CR:JLK (4)] [HANDWRITTEN: 110-26505-3] [HANDWRITTEN: Searched] [HANDWRITTEN: Serialized] [HANDWRITTEN: Indexed] [HANDWRITTEN: Filed]
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memo
An FBI teletype memo regarding an interview with Wlayslaw (Walter) Krasuski, a former German POW, who reported observing a large circular unidentified flying object in 1944.
FD-36 (Rev. 3-13-56) F B I Date: 11/7/57 Transmit the following message via TELETYPE URGENT (Priority or Method of Mailing) TO: DIRECTOR, FBI FROM: SAC, DETROIT UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS; IS - X. REBUTEL NOV. SIX LAST. WLAYSLAW KRASUSKI, AKA. WALTER KRASUSKI, [REDACTED] WAS GERMAN POW MAY, NINETEEN FORTY TWO, UNTIL SUMMER OF NINETEEN FOURTY FIVE. ARRIVED NY MAY TWO, NINETEEN FIFTY ONE, AS DP, AR NO. [REDACTED], KRASUSKI UPON INTERVIEW ADVISED THAT WHILE GERMAN POW DURING NINETEEN FORTY FOUR, OBSERVED A VEHICLE DESCRIBED AS CIRCULAR IN SHAPE, SEVENTY FIVE TO ONE HUNDRED YARDS IN DIAMETER, APPROXIMATELY FOURTEEN FEET HIGH. THE VEHICLE WAS OBSERVED TO SLOWLY RISE VERTICALLY TO HEIGHTS SUFFICIENT TO CLEAR FIFTY FOOT WALL AND TO MOVE SLOWLY HORIZONTALLY A SHORT DISTANCE OUT OF VIEW OBSTRUCTED BY TREES. ENGINE OF TRACTOR FAILED TO OPERATE DURING THIS PERIOD AND ON SEVERAL OTHER OCCASIONS WHEN HIGH PITCHED WHINLING NOISE HEARD IN AREA. NO INDICATION OF MENTAL INSTABILITY DURING INTERVIEW. FURTHER DETAILS FOLLOW AMSD. WLS:JLK DE 100-26505 (1) [HANDWRITTEN: 104.26505-4] [HANDWRITTEN: Searched] [HANDWRITTEN: Serialized] [HANDWRITTEN: Indexed] [HANDWRITTEN: Filed] [HANDWRITTEN: 45/8] Approved: ____________________ Special Agent in Charge Sent ____ M Per ________
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letter
A letter from the Oklahoma UFO Research Association to the FBI office in Detroit requesting information on UFO sightings reported in the Detroit area during the early spring of 1966.
The Oklahoma UFO Research Association Kerry Liesch, Director 3539 N. W. 53rd Oklahoma City, Oklahoma Bob Stamps, Co-Director 5024 N. W. 20th Oklahoma City, Oklahoma October 2, 1966 FBI OFFICE 913 Federal Building Detroit, Michigan Dear Sirs: My organization would appreciate any information that you could send us on Unidentified Flying Objects, specifically those sightings in your area in early spring of this year. We will greatly appreciate any information that you could send us on this subject. I thank you for your time and co-operation. Sincerely, Kerry Liesch Director, O.U.F.O.R.A. KKL/lw [HANDWRITTEN: ALL INFORMATION CONTAINED HEREIN IS UNCLASSIFIED DATE 5/15/95 BY S.W. GABRIEL] [HANDWRITTEN: 5-78-26505-5] [HANDWRITTEN: SEARCHED INDEXED SERIALIZED FILED OCT 7 1966 FBI - DETROIT] NW 90290 DocId:34714592 Page 14
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letter
A letter from the FBI Detroit office to Kerry Liesch of the Oklahoma UFO Research Association stating that the FBI does not have the requested information and suggesting he contact Wright-Patterson Air Force Base.
Post Office Box 2118 Detroit, Michigan 48231 October 11, 1966 Mr. Kerry Liesch Director The Oklahoma UFO Research Association 3539 N.W. 53rd Oklahoma City, Oklahoma Dear Mr. Liesch: This is to acknowledge your letter of October 2, 1966. Please be advised that this office does not have the information you have requested. It is possible that the United States Air Force, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Dayton, Ohio, may be the proper agency to contact. Very truly yours, Paul H. Stoddard Special Agent in Charge 1-Addressee 1-Detroit (100-26505) IRA:frq (2) [HANDWRITTEN: frq] ALL INFORMATION CONTAINED HEREIN IS UNCLASSIFIED DATE 5/15/85 BY SP6/jey 100 26505-6 SEARCHED SERIALIZED INDEXED FILED
